Comparing the 09 Heels to the 05 squad...
In the wake of UNC's dominant NCAA tournament performance this year, there's been plenty of conversation here in the triangle about where this team stacks up with the 2005 squad that earned the university it's first title of this decade. It's an interesting comparison - the teams are very similar in some ways yet different in some of the not so minor details. So, without further ado, let's get at it.
The tale of the tape :
UNC '04-05
Adjusted Offensive Efficiency - 126.6 (1st in the nation)
Adjusted Defensive Efficiency - 86.7 (5th)
Tempo - 73.9 Possessions/game (7th)
UNC '08-09 (as of first posting, Ken Pomery has not updated these to reflect the NCAA Championship Game, so they are subject to change slightly)
Adjusted Offensive Efficiency - 123.7 (1st)
Adjusted Defensive Efficiency - 90.0 (16th)
Tempo - 73.8 Posessions/game (8th)
At first blush, these teams are near replicas of each other in terms of offense and pace. Defensively, the 05 squad appears to be a clear champion here, but again the last game against MSU hasn't been factored into the equation yet. It's possible this year's team will jump slightly in defensive efficiency once they are updated for the final time.
Starting Lineup, 05
C - Sean May (118.6 ORating, 16.6 OReb%, 26.1 DReb %)
F - Jawad Williams (122.9 ORating, 7.0 OReb%, 10.7 DReb%)
F/G - Jackie Manuel (105.1 ORating, 3.4 Steal%)
G - Rashad McCants (119.1 ORating, 2.9 Steal%)
G - Ray Felton (110.7 ORating, 34.6 Assist Rate, 3.6 Steal%)
Bench, 05
F - Marvin Williams (119.4 ORating, 9.4 OReb%, 21.7 DReb%, 2.8 Steal%)
F - David Noel (112.3 ORating, 3.1 Steal%)
G - Melvin Scott (110.9 ORating, 2.5 Steal %)
The 05 team's 8 man rotation was absolutely stacked - 4 first round NBA draft picks (including one off the bench!) supplemented by excellent roleplayers like Noel and Scott. Sean May was easily the best rebounder in college basketball in his final season with the Heels. Jawad Williams is probably the most overlooked contributor of the bunch - his ability to finish around the basket and step out to hit the three point shot made it all the more difficult to focus on the team's trio of stars.
On to the present...
Starting Lineup 09
F - Tyler Hansbrough (125.8 ORating, 11.3 OReb%, 16.6 DReb%, 7.8 Fouls Drawn per 40 minutes)
F - Deon Thompson (107.8 ORating, 8.4 OReb%, 15.6 DReb%)
F - Danny Green (121.6 ORating, 3.5 Steal%, 4.5 Block%)
G - Wayne Ellington (122.4 Orating)
G - Ty Lawson (135.8 ORating, 35.7 Assist Rate, 3.5 Steal%)
Bench 09
F - Ed Davis (108.2 ORating, 12.9 OReb%, 23.2 DReb%, 8.7 Block%)
G - Bobby Frasor (98.0 ORating)
The first thing about this team that jumps out is the insane efficiency of the top four players - Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington, and Green - all of whom were in the top 50 nationally in that category. Speaking of Green, his across the board contributions as a defender and a sharpshooting 4th option were, like Jawad Williams' in 05, a key that could be overlooked when looking back on this team.
The second thing is that were we to base it on performance and ignore the effect it could have had on his confidence, Thompson had no business in that lineup with Davis on the bench. Ed Davis is, dare I say, the best post defender UNC has seen in over a decade, combining incredible length and athleticism with excellent instincts. He's not too shabby as a scorer either, though he does need some refinement.
Finally, this team isn't nearly as deep as the 05 group largely due to injury suffered by Ginyard and Zeller that kept them out of the rotation. Frasor, despite seeing solid minutes, was little more than a placeholder to let Lawson rest a bit. It's hard to imagine how much better this team could have been with Ginyard and Zeller playing alongside this group.
Realistically, you'd be picking hairs to decide which of these units was better. The team that just won the title was better defensively than the numbers would suggest considering their propensity to take a game off on that end every now and then. Both dominated offensively with an enviable balance of interior bangers and perimeter shooters. Both won titles. Both produced/will produce at least five NBA players. The coaching staff is a wash (they've stuck around!), and I'm tempted to call the whole thing one as well.
On a final note, it's amazing how lucky we are as UNC fans to even be having this discussion. Only UF has had two championships in this decade, and unlike them we look to continue as a year in/year out contender for the final four. It's a great time to be a Heels fan...
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I Think Both Squads Have Played Each Other
In parts at least, in various pickup games at the Dean Dome in the summer.
I’m intending to look in to this (and throwing comparisons to the 1993 team) more when I have some free time in the offseason, and when I get over the urge to have every post just be me typing “Woooooo!” over and over. My initial instincts would be to lean towards 2005, because I didn’t get the same feeling about this team until much later in the season, but that could be a hazy memory playing tricks on me.
I’m not sure Davis deserved the start over Thompson though. He would make a lot of mistakes, especially in the Villanova game, where you could see the nerves on the freshmen as opposed to the upperclassmen.
Thompson's not bad...
but I can’t think of a single game where he really forced the opposing team to respect his abilities. Sure, he’s an adequate scorer, but his rebounding is lackluster for a guy of his size. Overall, I just don’t think he has the toughness to assert himself in the post on either end of the floor. When you sleep on him and double Tyler, sure, he’ll take advantage with a cheapie, but I’m just not a big fan. Davis, on the other hand, has tremendous abilities. He was, in his first year, an elite rebounder and shot blocker. His offensive game is quite raw, but it improved consistently over the course of the year. So, from a purely performance standpoint, starting Davis should have been a no brainer half way through the year. Of course, no decision is purely performance based so I’m not really saying I would have done anything differently.
Funny though, next year we’ll see the same thing if Davis stays – Thompson keeping an incredibly talented freshman from a spot in the starting lineup. Unless, that is, that Roy convinces Deon to do the Paulus thing and swallow that pride for the good of the team.
by BraveBronco0121 on Apr 8, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions

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